They are playing semantics here, and the “fatwa” is more of a bayaan than a fatwa. It takes a general principle and then attempts to apply it. There is no specific textual evidence being applied to the specific situation, which is what is supposed to be done. Anyone who has studied ifta would know this.
They should have referred to the books of fiqh, depending on which madhhab these so-called “muftis” follow. The specific circumstances need to be examined and highlighted; that is precisely what they are supposed to assess.
I had a brief conversation with the mufti after sending him their ‘fatwa’, and he added that we can ask for transparency when giving money, especially when it is not being given on a purely transactional basis. If money has been donated to support a particular cause, we are entitled to ask for evidence and accountability. We already have circumstantial evidence based on past experiences with previous mercenaries القرينة و القرائن.
The other issue is 😝 that there are no names given for the “muftis” 😝. What kind of joke is this? It is the same way they are hiding the evidence, documentation, and receipts for the hospital bill, medical costs, flights and extended hotel costs. They want us to play cat and mouse and ask for the names of the muftis instead of them adding their names. If you spent so much time obtaining this poorly written fatwa, then at least provide the names of the muftis whom Ustadh Dawud consulted for this “fatwa.”
I will respond to this with a genuine fatwa, complete with references that are directly connected to the specific situation, as is the case with previous fatwas (attached) I have received from the students of the late Mufti Ebrahim Desai رحمه الله.
I will make sure this matter is not buried under the carpet just yet. These mercenaries are looking for a quick escape. Hit-and-run tactics. Not with me, mate.
I always stress that ihsan and ikhlas are essential for any form of dawah. Performative and emotive dawah aimed at generating clicks and fundraising is a major concern. Hiding behind loopholes and technicalities will lead to the corruption of the dawah and many other problems.
My position in calling out these mercenaries is rooted in ihsan and ikhlas, which are at the heart and soul of anyone engaged in dawah. The phenomenon of persistent fundraising by du’aat, where there is no personal connection between the donor and the recipient, is deeply concerning. Instead, trust is built solely on the individual’s online persona, and people are willing to send money based on that alone. This creates an environment where the abuse and exploitation of wealth can easily take place. The recent trend of constantly seeking donations is troubling, and these du’aat know they can elicit money through emotive appeals, with funds being sent to them almost instantly.
The point I am trying to make is that the way to distinguish between mercenaries who use religion for personal gain and those who do not is to establish a standard of complete transparency. Anyone requesting money through fundraising should be willing to provide documentation, evidence, and receipts showing how those funds were spent.
Shaykh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, in Fatawa Nur al-Darb (Tape No. 237), was asked about excess money collected from people to treat a sick person. He ruled:
The money collected for the treatment of a sick person is a trust (amanah). If the person is cured for less than what was collected, the excess must be returned to the donors if they are known. If they are not known, the excess must be spent on a similar charitable cause, such as treating other sick Muslims who cannot afford treatment.
المال الذي جمع لعلاج مريض أمانة، فإذا برئ بأقل مما جمع، فالزائد يرد إلى أصحابه إن عُرفوا، فإن لم يُعرفوا صُرف في علاج مرضى مسلمين آخرين محتاجين.
I want to give an example of how some du’aat use their following to elicit money from gullible supporters. @HamzasDen requested money to pay a lease in order to secure a shop. An emotive dawah appeal was used, and after receiving thousands in donations, he added a clause in a members-only group stating that anyone who had given money as a loan needed to contact him to arrange a repayment plan. (@MuslimOrthodoxy has a similar members-only subscription model, ranging from £5.99 per month to £59.99 per month.)
He knew that many of those followers, who did not know him personally and only knew him through what they saw online, were unlikely to contact him to arrange a repayment plan. As a result, he kept the money without any apparent concern. My point is this: how do you establish donor intent online when the overwhelming majority of donors have no personal relationship with the fundraiser? This is precisely why documentation, receipts, and transparency are necessary to prevent cycles of grifting, abuse, and exploitation.
At the end of the day, if someone is hesitant to provide documentation as I have done for the project I have been involved with supporting Gaza refugees in Egypt since 2024, then why can the du’aat in question not provide documentation, proof, and receipts for their hospital and medical bills, the one-way flight they had to book after missing their original flight, and the extended hotel stays?
I want to educate the Gen Z duʿāt about transparency and accountability. Shaykh Ibn ʿUthaymeen رحمه الله mentioned an established principle regarding funds collected for a specific purpose:
The principle we follow in this matter is that whoever receives money from people for a specified purpose is not permitted to spend it on another purpose without first obtaining their permission.
والقاعدة عندنا في هذا: أن من أخذ من الناس أموالاً لشيء معين، فإنه لا يصرفها في غيره إلا بعد استئذانهم
From an Islamic fiqh standpoint, @MuslimOrthodoxy cannot keep that surplus. In Islamic jurisprudence, donor intent is a binding condition. People donated to cover a specific hospital bill, medical expenses, flights, and extended hotel stays. Since the actual medical and hospital need has been covered, as well as flights and hotel expenses (extended) keeping the excess money for personal use would be impermissible.
Therefore, if someone intended to donate only towards the specific reasons listed in the fundraiser, then Libyano cannot keep any surplus funds. However, if a donor intended to give him additional money beyond those stated purposes, then he may keep it. He cannot simply assume this without first clarifying the matter with each donor.
Furthermore, Islamically he is obligated to provide receipts and prove the actual cost of the expenses. In fiqh, managing public donations makes a person a trustee.
ما لا يتم الواجب إلا به فهو واجب
Whatever an obligation cannot be fulfilled without, then that thing itself becomes obligatory. If producing receipts is the only way to remove suspicions of financial misconduct and demonstrate that the trust has been properly discharged, then providing that proof becomes a religious obligation.
Shaykh Ibn Baz was asked about a mosque who requested funds in the US, they gathered the money and built the mosque but they remained money from the project.
If the first mosque for which the money was collected has been completed and no longer needs the funds, then the surplus money should be spent on the construction or maintenance of other mosques, along with anything associated with them such as libraries, washrooms, and similar facilities. This is as stated by the scholars in the chapter on waqf.
This is because it is of the same type as the mosque for which the donations were originally given. It is well known that the donors intended to contribute to the building and maintenance of one of the Houses of Allah. Therefore, whatever remains in excess should be directed to a similar purpose.
If there is no mosque in need of such funds, then the surplus should be spent on general causes that benefit Allah’s religion and the Muslims, such as schools, charity for the poor, and similar public interests.
فأجاب : إذا كان المسجد الأول الذي جمع له المال قد كمل واستغنى عن المال , فإن الفاضل من المال يصرف لتعمير مساجد أخرى ، مع ما يضاف إليها من مكتبات ودورات مياه ونحو ذلك ، كما نص على ذلك أهل العلم في كتاب الوقف ؛ ولأنه من جنس المسجد الذي تبرع له ، ومعلوم أن المتبرعين إنما قصدوا المساهمة في تعمير بيت من بيوت الله ، فما فضل عنه يصرف في مثله ، فإن لم يوجد مسجد محتاج صرف الفاضل في المصالح العامة لله والمسلمين ، كالمدارس والصدقات على الفقراء ونحو ذلك ، والله ولي التوفيق " فتاوى الشيخ ابن باز
Therefore, they cannot simply claim that, because Libyano is a public figure, donors intended to give him extra money for his personal cause beyond what was explicitly stated. They would need to verify that intention with each donor individually. Without doing so, it cannot be assumed that donors consented to the surplus being used for any purpose other than the one for which it was originally collected.
All this sophistry and stupidity just to avoid presenting documentation and receipts for their claims.
According to @Deenresponds, he has seen the receipts, which means there should be a bill detailing the treatment received from the hospital, totalling $5,000 USD (approximately 46,000 dirhams). It must also have been paid by @MuslimOrthodoxy, which means there should be evidence showing how it was paid whether by debit card, cash, or another method.
It’s convenient to say that the entire treatment cost $5,000 USD because the fundraiser stated:
“At this point, I am expecting the hospital costs, missed flight (I may be able to override this), extended stay, and medical treatment to add up to thousands of dollars.”
The original fundraiser aimed to raise $5,000 USD. However according to Deen Responds the hospital costs and medical treatment have surpassed the initial estimate. What was the actual amount raised?
You’re hiding the documentation and receipts but won’t confirm the exact figure. You’re happy to be vague and say it was “more than $5,000”. How much more? Was it $10,000, $7,000 or something else? You can’t even provide the precise amount? 😝
Once you confirm the amount, it should match the documentation, invoices, and receipts. As for the other costs, such as the missed flight, that would mean purchasing another ticket. Regarding the extended stay, it could be argued that those expenses came from the additional funds that were generously donated as support for Libiyano. Then the response becomes: “We don’t need to show you any evidence.” Checkmate. 😝
I knew the Gen Z du’āt and their followers would react this way. It is important to note that when people go to great lengths to avoid providing evidence, it naturally raises questions about their claims. Basic logic dictates that transparency resolves doubts.
Deen Responds claims to have consulted a mufti and a student of knowledge. Who are they? What are their names? I would be interested to know and would even approach them myself.
Over the past two years, I’ve spoken privately to numerous Du’aat and charities but it was not productive nor did anything change. I’ve learned from my past experiences and won’t contact Libiyano until I’ve recorded a video with the fatwa. The loopholes and technicalities I’ve heard over the past two years from the mercenaries are laughable. If you have any documentation receipts or anything else related to the bill costing over $5000 USD please provide it, but you taking a leaf out of the Talmudic technicalities. By the way, how was the payment made to the hospital? cash or card? Wait for my video!
I will seek a fatwa from students of Mufti Ebrahim Desai. I have recorded videos in the past presenting their fatwas on screen. You need to sit tight, because I will respond to all of these rabbinical and Talmudic loopholes that are being presented.
I want to respond to this because, as I always highlight, the devil is in the details. The claim is that the donation link was open for 10 hours, and a brother took a screenshot for me on 22 May 2026 when the donations were still open. They didn’t expect the goal to be reached that quickly, and he would have closed it earlier had he known. I don’t buy that, but let’s assume it’s true.
Quote: “A couple of days ago, I had to go to a private clinic for treatment. Even for something as basic as an X-ray, oxygen, and a few rounds of nebulizer treatment, the cost was extremely high.”
@Deenresponds or @MuslimOrthodoxy clearly mentioned that the cost was “extremely high,” which indicates you knew what the costs were. Why was this not provided on the GoFundMe page? How did you conclude that you needed 7,500 Australian dollars? It is a simple request: present a breakdown of the costs by way of documentation to prove the treatment actually cost 7,500 Australian dollars. It is quite straightforward, so why the hesitation? What are you concealing?
I can promise you that going to a hospital for an asthma attack would never cost 7,500 dollars, and hospitals do issue receipts. I have attached an original hospital record/document. This was from some time ago, and it was paid in cash for an ECG, a heart check-up, and an X-ray. I hate to break it to you, but it was nowhere near 7,500 Australian dollars not even close. No Moroccan medical bill would be 7,500 Australian dollars for this type of treatment, so you need to provide complete and transparent documentation with receipts.
This is non-negotiable, and the extra $30,000, if he had any integrity, should be donated to the genuinely needy those who are less fortunate and suffering from extreme poverty in Muslim lands. The reluctance to present evidence is telling and shocking. You know the treatment did not cost 7,500 Australian dollars. Present the documentation and show us the receipts. You guys are no different from sneaky snake oil salesmen.
Furthermore, GoFundMe transfers funds on a cycle. Why can’t you show the transfers reaching your bank account? This campaign was created to support renovation work for a mosque in Morocco (Meknes). I have forwarded the money in full to Morocco today, and I have attached my transaction confirmation.
Come on, nephew show the same level of documentation that I am showing, if you are brave enough and have integrity and honour, and if you indeed transferred the money to The Orthodox Muslim in Morocco. #ShowUsTheDocuments
I do not want to record constant videos about the exploitation of fundraisers and Du’aat employing rabbinical and Talmudic loopholes to defend their lack of integrity. A “mercenary,” according to the Cambridge Dictionary, is someone interested only in the amount of money that they can get from a situation.
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The recent fiasco shows how many are employing sophistry and manipulative tactics to use their platform to build a career and derive monetary benefit from giving daʿwah.
Imam Nawawi has a chapter in Riyāḍ al-Ṣāliḥīn:
باب القناعة والعفاف والاقتصاد في المعيشة والإنفاق وذم السؤال من غير ضرورة
Chapter on Contentment, Self-Restraint, Moderation in Livelihood and Spending, and the Condemnation of Asking People Without Necessity.
In this chapter he presents a narration. The Prophet ﷺ said:
Whoever asks people for their wealth in order to increase his own wealth is only asking for live coals. Let him ask for little or much.
The mercenaries and their cheerleaders argue that he is not mandated to provide any documentation, which is merely an evasive tactic demonstrating a lack of honour and integrity. The grift by some Du’aat who use their platforms to elicit donations, is deliberate. They know exactly what they are doing, exploiting the gullibility of their followers, who are being taken for a ride.
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentioned in al-Iṣābah some of the reasons why Khalid ibn al-Walid was removed from his position:
وكان سبب عزل عمر خالداً ما ذكره الزبير بن بكّار، قال: كان خالد إذا صار إليه المال قسمه في أهل الغنائم، ولم يرفع إلى أبي بكر حساباً
The reason Umar رضي الله عنه removed Khalid bin Al-Walid رضي الله عنه was what al-Zubayr ibn Bakker mentioned. He said: When wealth came to Khalid, he would distribute it among those entitled to the spoils and would not submit an account of it to Abu Bakr.
This demonstrates the precedent established by the noble Companions regarding transparency and financial accountability. Muslims are bound by their conditions and must hold themselves accountable before they are taken to account.
Umar رضي الله عنه said:
حَاسِبُوا أَنْفُسَكُمْ قَبْلَ أَنْ تُحَاسَبُوا
Hold yourselves accountable before you are held accountable. This is a general principle and is not restricted to those in positions of authority. One may hold fellow Muslims accountable, and this is not contingent upon occupying a position of power. Deceivers will exploit every loophole and ambiguity because they are neither transparent nor honourable, and in reality, they do not abide by their own stated conditions. The Prophet ﷺ said:
وَالْمُسْلِمُونَ عَلَى شُرُوطِهِمْ
The Muslims are bound by their conditions.
Imam Mubarakpuri, commenting on this hadith, said:
Meaning: They remain firm upon them and do not turn away from them. Do not allow them to evade scrutiny. Continue pressing for documentation and transparency. If they are truly committed to spending the money in accordance with their claims, why would it be so difficult for them to share receipts and records? The devil is in the details.
During the past couple of years, I have spoken privately to countless individuals from the charity sector after demanding transparency regarding the Gaza genocide. I also held a face‑to‑face meeting with the trustees of one charity, which lasted many hours.
On another occasion, I spoke to one of the managers of a different charity on more than one occasion. While the interactions were respectful, my request for a public breakdown of donations how much was raised and how much was spent fell on deaf ears. youtu.be/TxfgTN4trwQ?si…�youtu.b...
I also spoke privately to @HamzasDen on the phone and had many exchanges with him via WhatsApp. However, my demand for documentation, receipts, and evidence did not result in any meaningful or productive engagement, and my requests for transparency were ultimately ignored.
The point is this: you do not need to convince me, nor will I speak privately to anyone again when I am demanding evidence or documentation for money taken from the believers. The principle is simple. Anyone with integrity who requests money from the Ummah whether for da’wah, personal issues, medical needs, or debt must provide documentation. Given how frequently da’wah is exploited and grifting occurs, accountability is essential. This includes receipts clearly showing that funds raised were spent in accordance with the stated conditions.
Narrated Ibn Sirin: A man said to a hirer of animals, “Prepare your travelling animals, and if I should not go with you on such and such a day, I shall pay you one hundred dirhams.” He did not go on that day. Shuraih said, “If anyone puts a condition on himself of his own free will, without being under duress, he must abide by it.”
You must abide by your own conditions. If documentation is requested, why the hesitation in disclosing it? Being involved in da’wah does not entitle anyone to unrestricted fundraising, nor does it remove accountability. Providing da’wah does not justify taking excess funds without transparency or honesty. Many du‘aat are following the manhaj of the rabbis, relying on loopholes reminiscent of Talmudic practices.
It seems their grifts are inspired by their Christian online friends. Whether the perpetrator is Muslim or Christian they’re all mercenaries. Perhaps @MuslimOrthodoxy borrowed a tactic from @GodLogicApologetics
Our brother @MuslimOrthodoxy set up a fundraiser to cover his $5000 medical costs after suffering an asthma attack during his trip to Morocco. Alhamdulliah, the fundraiser achieved that target. However, the fundraiser was not closed, and over $35,000 has been raised which is far more than he needed or even sufficient. When asked for documentation our request seems to have been ignored and fallen on deaf ears. This is a problem with mercenaries / Du’aat within the ummah. They’ve exploited the religion and monetised it for their own gain.
Bro Hajji
They are playing semantics here, and the “fatwa” is more of a bayaan than a fatwa. It takes a general principle and then attempts to apply it. There is no specific textual evidence being applied to the specific situation, which is what is supposed to be done. Anyone who has studied ifta would know this.
They should have referred to the books of fiqh, depending on which madhhab these so-called “muftis” follow. The specific circumstances need to be examined and highlighted; that is precisely what they are supposed to assess.
I had a brief conversation with the mufti after sending him their ‘fatwa’, and he added that we can ask for transparency when giving money, especially when it is not being given on a purely transactional basis. If money has been donated to support a particular cause, we are entitled to ask for evidence and accountability. We already have circumstantial evidence based on past experiences with previous mercenaries القرينة و القرائن.
The other issue is 😝 that there are no names given for the “muftis” 😝. What kind of joke is this? It is the same way they are hiding the evidence, documentation, and receipts for the hospital bill, medical costs, flights and extended hotel costs. They want us to play cat and mouse and ask for the names of the muftis instead of them adding their names. If you spent so much time obtaining this poorly written fatwa, then at least provide the names of the muftis whom Ustadh Dawud consulted for this “fatwa.”
I will respond to this with a genuine fatwa, complete with references that are directly connected to the specific situation, as is the case with previous fatwas (attached) I have received from the students of the late Mufti Ebrahim Desai رحمه الله.
I will make sure this matter is not buried under the carpet just yet. These mercenaries are looking for a quick escape. Hit-and-run tactics. Not with me, mate.
Gen Z du’aat and mercenaries may find that some difficult questions are not going away anytime soon. @MuslimOrthodoxy @Deenresponds @DarajatSL
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Bro Hajji
I always stress that ihsan and ikhlas are essential for any form of dawah. Performative and emotive dawah aimed at generating clicks and fundraising is a major concern. Hiding behind loopholes and technicalities will lead to the corruption of the dawah and many other problems.
My position in calling out these mercenaries is rooted in ihsan and ikhlas, which are at the heart and soul of anyone engaged in dawah. The phenomenon of persistent fundraising by du’aat, where there is no personal connection between the donor and the recipient, is deeply concerning. Instead, trust is built solely on the individual’s online persona, and people are willing to send money based on that alone. This creates an environment where the abuse and exploitation of wealth can easily take place. The recent trend of constantly seeking donations is troubling, and these du’aat know they can elicit money through emotive appeals, with funds being sent to them almost instantly.
The point I am trying to make is that the way to distinguish between mercenaries who use religion for personal gain and those who do not is to establish a standard of complete transparency. Anyone requesting money through fundraising should be willing to provide documentation, evidence, and receipts showing how those funds were spent.
Shaykh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, in Fatawa Nur al-Darb (Tape No. 237), was asked about excess money collected from people to treat a sick person. He ruled:
The money collected for the treatment of a sick person is a trust (amanah). If the person is cured for less than what was collected, the excess must be returned to the donors if they are known. If they are not known, the excess must be spent on a similar charitable cause, such as treating other sick Muslims who cannot afford treatment.
المال الذي جمع لعلاج مريض أمانة، فإذا برئ بأقل مما جمع، فالزائد يرد إلى أصحابه إن عُرفوا، فإن لم يُعرفوا صُرف في علاج مرضى مسلمين آخرين محتاجين.
I want to give an example of how some du’aat use their following to elicit money from gullible supporters. @HamzasDen requested money to pay a lease in order to secure a shop. An emotive dawah appeal was used, and after receiving thousands in donations, he added a clause in a members-only group stating that anyone who had given money as a loan needed to contact him to arrange a repayment plan. (@MuslimOrthodoxy has a similar members-only subscription model, ranging from £5.99 per month to £59.99 per month.)
He knew that many of those followers, who did not know him personally and only knew him through what they saw online, were unlikely to contact him to arrange a repayment plan. As a result, he kept the money without any apparent concern. My point is this: how do you establish donor intent online when the overwhelming majority of donors have no personal relationship with the fundraiser? This is precisely why documentation, receipts, and transparency are necessary to prevent cycles of grifting, abuse, and exploitation.
At the end of the day, if someone is hesitant to provide documentation as I have done for the project I have been involved with supporting Gaza refugees in Egypt since 2024, then why can the du’aat in question not provide documentation, proof, and receipts for their hospital and medical bills, the one-way flight they had to book after missing their original flight, and the extended hotel stays?
Ask yourself that question?
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Bro Hajji
I want to educate the Gen Z duʿāt about transparency and accountability. Shaykh Ibn ʿUthaymeen رحمه الله mentioned an established principle regarding funds collected for a specific purpose:
The principle we follow in this matter is that whoever receives money from people for a specified purpose is not permitted to spend it on another purpose without first obtaining their permission.
والقاعدة عندنا في هذا: أن من أخذ من الناس أموالاً لشيء معين، فإنه لا يصرفها في غيره إلا بعد استئذانهم
From an Islamic fiqh standpoint, @MuslimOrthodoxy cannot keep that surplus. In Islamic jurisprudence, donor intent is a binding condition. People donated to cover a specific hospital bill, medical expenses, flights, and extended hotel stays. Since the actual medical and hospital need has been covered, as well as flights and hotel expenses (extended) keeping the excess money for personal use would be impermissible.
Therefore, if someone intended to donate only towards the specific reasons listed in the fundraiser, then Libyano cannot keep any surplus funds. However, if a donor intended to give him additional money beyond those stated purposes, then he may keep it. He cannot simply assume this without first clarifying the matter with each donor.
Furthermore, Islamically he is obligated to provide receipts and prove the actual cost of the expenses. In fiqh, managing public donations makes a person a trustee.
ما لا يتم الواجب إلا به فهو واجب
Whatever an obligation cannot be fulfilled without, then that thing itself becomes obligatory. If producing receipts is the only way to remove suspicions of financial misconduct and demonstrate that the trust has been properly discharged, then providing that proof becomes a religious obligation.
Shaykh Ibn Baz was asked about a mosque who requested funds in the US, they gathered the money and built the mosque but they remained money from the project.
If the first mosque for which the money was collected has been completed and no longer needs the funds, then the surplus money should be spent on the construction or maintenance of other mosques, along with anything associated with them such as libraries, washrooms, and similar facilities. This is as stated by the scholars in the chapter on waqf.
This is because it is of the same type as the mosque for which the donations were originally given. It is well known that the donors intended to contribute to the building and maintenance of one of the Houses of Allah. Therefore, whatever remains in excess should be directed to a similar purpose.
If there is no mosque in need of such funds, then the surplus should be spent on general causes that benefit Allah’s religion and the Muslims, such as schools, charity for the poor, and similar public interests.
فأجاب : إذا كان المسجد الأول الذي جمع له المال قد كمل واستغنى عن المال , فإن الفاضل من المال يصرف لتعمير مساجد أخرى ، مع ما يضاف إليها من مكتبات ودورات مياه ونحو ذلك ، كما نص على ذلك أهل العلم في كتاب الوقف ؛ ولأنه من جنس المسجد الذي تبرع له ، ومعلوم أن المتبرعين إنما قصدوا المساهمة في تعمير بيت من بيوت الله ، فما فضل عنه يصرف في مثله ، فإن لم يوجد مسجد محتاج صرف الفاضل في المصالح العامة لله والمسلمين ، كالمدارس والصدقات على الفقراء ونحو ذلك ، والله ولي التوفيق " فتاوى الشيخ ابن باز
Therefore, they cannot simply claim that, because Libyano is a public figure, donors intended to give him extra money for his personal cause beyond what was explicitly stated. They would need to verify that intention with each donor individually. Without doing so, it cannot be assumed that donors consented to the surplus being used for any purpose other than the one for which it was originally collected.
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Bro Hajji
All this sophistry and stupidity just to avoid presenting documentation and receipts for their claims.
According to @Deenresponds, he has seen the receipts, which means there should be a bill detailing the treatment received from the hospital, totalling $5,000 USD (approximately 46,000 dirhams). It must also have been paid by @MuslimOrthodoxy, which means there should be evidence showing how it was paid whether by debit card, cash, or another method.
It’s convenient to say that the entire treatment cost $5,000 USD because the fundraiser stated:
“At this point, I am expecting the hospital costs, missed flight (I may be able to override this), extended stay, and medical treatment to add up to thousands of dollars.”
The original fundraiser aimed to raise $5,000 USD. However according to Deen Responds the hospital costs and medical treatment have surpassed the initial estimate. What was the actual amount raised?
You’re hiding the documentation and receipts but won’t confirm the exact figure. You’re happy to be vague and say it was “more than $5,000”. How much more? Was it $10,000, $7,000 or something else? You can’t even provide the precise amount? 😝
Once you confirm the amount, it should match the documentation, invoices, and receipts. As for the other costs, such as the missed flight, that would mean purchasing another ticket. Regarding the extended stay, it could be argued that those expenses came from the additional funds that were generously donated as support for Libiyano. Then the response becomes: “We don’t need to show you any evidence.” Checkmate. 😝
I knew the Gen Z du’āt and their followers would react this way. It is important to note that when people go to great lengths to avoid providing evidence, it naturally raises questions about their claims. Basic logic dictates that transparency resolves doubts.
Deen Responds claims to have consulted a mufti and a student of knowledge. Who are they? What are their names? I would be interested to know and would even approach them myself.
Over the past two years, I’ve spoken privately to numerous Du’aat and charities but it was not productive nor did anything change. I’ve learned from my past experiences and won’t contact Libiyano until I’ve recorded a video with the fatwa. The loopholes and technicalities I’ve heard over the past two years from the mercenaries are laughable. If you have any documentation receipts or anything else related to the bill costing over $5000 USD please provide it, but you taking a leaf out of the Talmudic technicalities. By the way, how was the payment made to the hospital? cash or card? Wait for my video!
I will seek a fatwa from students of Mufti Ebrahim Desai. I have recorded videos in the past presenting their fatwas on screen. You need to sit tight, because I will respond to all of these rabbinical and Talmudic loopholes that are being presented.
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Bro Hajji
I want to respond to this because, as I always highlight, the devil is in the details. The claim is that the donation link was open for 10 hours, and a brother took a screenshot for me on 22 May 2026 when the donations were still open. They didn’t expect the goal to be reached that quickly, and he would have closed it earlier had he known. I don’t buy that, but let’s assume it’s true.
Let’s deal with the facts here from the GoFundMe:
www.gofundme.com/f/donate-to-orthodox-muslim?attri…
Quote: “A couple of days ago, I had to go to a private clinic for treatment. Even for something as basic as an X-ray, oxygen, and a few rounds of nebulizer treatment, the cost was extremely high.”
@Deenresponds or @MuslimOrthodoxy clearly mentioned that the cost was “extremely high,” which indicates you knew what the costs were. Why was this not provided on the GoFundMe page? How did you conclude that you needed 7,500 Australian dollars? It is a simple request: present a breakdown of the costs by way of documentation to prove the treatment actually cost 7,500 Australian dollars. It is quite straightforward, so why the hesitation? What are you concealing?
I can promise you that going to a hospital for an asthma attack would never cost 7,500 dollars, and hospitals do issue receipts. I have attached an original hospital record/document. This was from some time ago, and it was paid in cash for an ECG, a heart check-up, and an X-ray. I hate to break it to you, but it was nowhere near 7,500 Australian dollars not even close. No Moroccan medical bill would be 7,500 Australian dollars for this type of treatment, so you need to provide complete and transparent documentation with receipts.
This is non-negotiable, and the extra $30,000, if he had any integrity, should be donated to the genuinely needy those who are less fortunate and suffering from extreme poverty in Muslim lands. The reluctance to present evidence is telling and shocking. You know the treatment did not cost 7,500 Australian dollars. Present the documentation and show us the receipts. You guys are no different from sneaky snake oil salesmen.
Furthermore, GoFundMe transfers funds on a cycle. Why can’t you show the transfers reaching your bank account? This campaign was created to support renovation work for a mosque in Morocco (Meknes). I have forwarded the money in full to Morocco today, and I have attached my transaction confirmation.
Come on, nephew show the same level of documentation that I am showing, if you are brave enough and have integrity and honour, and if you indeed transferred the money to The Orthodox Muslim in Morocco. #ShowUsTheDocuments
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Bro Hajji
I do not want to record constant videos about the exploitation of fundraisers and Du’aat employing rabbinical and Talmudic loopholes to defend their lack of integrity. A “mercenary,” according to the Cambridge Dictionary, is someone interested only in the amount of money that they can get from a situation.
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/eng…
The recent fiasco shows how many are employing sophistry and manipulative tactics to use their platform to build a career and derive monetary benefit from giving daʿwah.
Imam Nawawi has a chapter in Riyāḍ al-Ṣāliḥīn:
باب القناعة والعفاف والاقتصاد في المعيشة والإنفاق وذم السؤال من غير ضرورة
Chapter on Contentment, Self-Restraint, Moderation in Livelihood and Spending, and the Condemnation of Asking People Without Necessity.
In this chapter he presents a narration. The Prophet ﷺ said:
Whoever asks people for their wealth in order to increase his own wealth is only asking for live coals. Let him ask for little or much.
مَنْ سَأَلَ النَّاسَ أَمْوَالَهُمْ تَكَثُّرًا، فَإِنَّمَا يَسْأَلُ جَمْرًا، فَلْيَسْتَقِلَّ أَوْ لِيَسْتَكْثِرْ
The mercenaries and their cheerleaders argue that he is not mandated to provide any documentation, which is merely an evasive tactic demonstrating a lack of honour and integrity. The grift by some Du’aat who use their platforms to elicit donations, is deliberate. They know exactly what they are doing, exploiting the gullibility of their followers, who are being taken for a ride.
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentioned in al-Iṣābah some of the reasons why Khalid ibn al-Walid was removed from his position:
وكان سبب عزل عمر خالداً ما ذكره الزبير بن بكّار، قال: كان خالد إذا صار إليه المال قسمه في أهل الغنائم، ولم يرفع إلى أبي بكر حساباً
The reason Umar رضي الله عنه removed Khalid bin Al-Walid رضي الله عنه was what al-Zubayr ibn Bakker mentioned. He said: When wealth came to Khalid, he would distribute it among those entitled to the spoils and would not submit an account of it to Abu Bakr.
This demonstrates the precedent established by the noble Companions regarding transparency and financial accountability. Muslims are bound by their conditions and must hold themselves accountable before they are taken to account.
Umar رضي الله عنه said:
حَاسِبُوا أَنْفُسَكُمْ قَبْلَ أَنْ تُحَاسَبُوا
Hold yourselves accountable before you are held accountable. This is a general principle and is not restricted to those in positions of authority. One may hold fellow Muslims accountable, and this is not contingent upon occupying a position of power. Deceivers will exploit every loophole and ambiguity because they are neither transparent nor honourable, and in reality, they do not abide by their own stated conditions. The Prophet ﷺ said:
وَالْمُسْلِمُونَ عَلَى شُرُوطِهِمْ
The Muslims are bound by their conditions.
Imam Mubarakpuri, commenting on this hadith, said:
أَيْ ثَابِتُونَ عَلَيْهَا لَا يَرْجِعُونَ عَنْهَا
Meaning: They remain firm upon them and do not turn away from them. Do not allow them to evade scrutiny. Continue pressing for documentation and transparency. If they are truly committed to spending the money in accordance with their claims, why would it be so difficult for them to share receipts and records? The devil is in the details.
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Bro Hajji
During the past couple of years, I have spoken privately to countless individuals from the charity sector after demanding transparency regarding the Gaza genocide. I also held a face‑to‑face meeting with the trustees of one charity, which lasted many hours.
youtu.be/HkUrHRCuFT0?si…
On another occasion, I spoke to one of the managers of a different charity on more than one occasion. While the interactions were respectful, my request for a public breakdown of donations how much was raised and how much was spent fell on deaf ears.
youtu.be/TxfgTN4trwQ?si…�youtu.b...
I also spoke privately to @HamzasDen on the phone and had many exchanges with him via WhatsApp. However, my demand for documentation, receipts, and evidence did not result in any meaningful or productive engagement, and my requests for transparency were ultimately ignored.
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ...
The point is this: you do not need to convince me, nor will I speak privately to anyone again when I am demanding evidence or documentation for money taken from the believers. The principle is simple. Anyone with integrity who requests money from the Ummah whether for da’wah, personal issues, medical needs, or debt must provide documentation. Given how frequently da’wah is exploited and grifting occurs, accountability is essential. This includes receipts clearly showing that funds raised were spent in accordance with the stated conditions.
Narrated Ibn Sirin: A man said to a hirer of animals, “Prepare your travelling animals, and if I should not go with you on such and such a day, I shall pay you one hundred dirhams.” He did not go on that day. Shuraih said, “If anyone puts a condition on himself of his own free will, without being under duress, he must abide by it.”
وَقَالَ ابْنُ عَوْنٍ عَنِ ابْنِ سِيرِينَ قَالَ رَجُلٌ لِكَرِيِّهِ أَدْخِلْ رِكَابَكَ، فَإِنْ لَمْ أَرْحَلْ مَعَكَ يَوْمَ كَذَا وَكَذَا، فَلَكَ مِائَةُ دِرْهَمٍ. فَلَمْ يَخْرُجْ، فَقَالَ شُرَيْحٌ مَنْ شَرَطَ عَلَى نَفْسِهِ طَائِعًا غَيْرَ مُكْرَهٍ فَهْوَ عَلَيْهِ.
You must abide by your own conditions. If documentation is requested, why the hesitation in disclosing it? Being involved in da’wah does not entitle anyone to unrestricted fundraising, nor does it remove accountability. Providing da’wah does not justify taking excess funds without transparency or honesty. Many du‘aat are following the manhaj of the rabbis, relying on loopholes reminiscent of Talmudic practices.
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Bro Hajji
It seems their grifts are inspired by their Christian online friends. Whether the perpetrator is Muslim or Christian they’re all mercenaries. Perhaps @MuslimOrthodoxy borrowed a tactic from @GodLogicApologetics
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Bro Hajji
Eid Mubarak 🌙✨
On this beautiful day I pray that Allah fills your heart with peace, your home with happiness, and your life with endless blessings.
May all the sacrifices you’ve made be accepted, and may every dua you’ve held in your heart be answered in the best way.
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Bro Hajji
Our brother @MuslimOrthodoxy set up a fundraiser to cover his $5000 medical costs after suffering an asthma attack during his trip to Morocco. Alhamdulliah, the fundraiser achieved that target. However, the fundraiser was not closed, and over $35,000 has been raised which is far more than he needed or even sufficient. When asked for documentation our request seems to have been ignored and fallen on deaf ears. This is a problem with mercenaries / Du’aat within the ummah. They’ve exploited the religion and monetised it for their own gain.
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